tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3425507272157287074.post4352764036627094004..comments2024-03-09T14:18:50.979+01:00Comments on ARCAblog: Statistics on European Art CrimeEdgar Tijhuishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06122194472344222217noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3425507272157287074.post-47138406105506914652018-09-19T05:36:04.340+02:002018-09-19T05:36:04.340+02:00It's been a long while since, but just for eas...It's been a long while since, but just for ease of finding, those and other statistics are here: http://www.cz-museums.cz/UserFiles/file/Deni%20v%20oboru/Aktuality/listopad%202011/111031%20-%20cultural%20property%20crimes.pdfsamarkeologhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15105252320758729314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3425507272157287074.post-27386656863978754372014-02-16T11:00:08.569+01:002014-02-16T11:00:08.569+01:00Dear Ludo,
are there any news about the final pres...Dear Ludo,<br />are there any news about the final presentation of these data? Thank you very muchUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13761940235764421323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3425507272157287074.post-6101983172371407412012-04-09T14:36:13.322+02:002012-04-09T14:36:13.322+02:00Ton, the document I referred to in my reply contai...Ton, the document I referred to in my reply contains the minutes of the meeting where the questionnaire was distributed among the member states' representatives. See page 12 at the bottom. The final data are collated in <a href="http://register.consilium.europa.eu/pdf/en/11/st13/st13867-re02.en11.pdf" rel="nofollow">this</a> document. <br />However, this document is only partly accessible because (and I quote from a reply I received from the Council Secretariat):<br /><br /> 'it contains sensitive statistical and operational data that, if released to the public, could be misused by different criminal groups involved in organised crime and compromise the work of the competent law enforcement authorities'.<br /><br />I have lodged a confirmatory application with the Council to get this data fully released because the motivation for the denial is of course mere nonsense. <br /><br />Meanwhile I have been able to get my hands on a presentation based on the original data. I will send you that presentation by email. (If anyone else is interested, please drop me an email and I'll send it to you as well).<br /><br />LudoLudohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17120130133042403515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3425507272157287074.post-14854855259221993832012-04-09T11:16:19.766+02:002012-04-09T11:16:19.766+02:00Ludo, I followed the link that you presented in yo...Ludo, I followed the link that you presented in your reply (http://register.consilium.europa.eu/pdf/en/11/st08/st08457.en11.pdf) but could not find anything related to art crime. I look forward to future data.<br /><br />Ton CremersMuseum Security Networkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10093106082873954736noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3425507272157287074.post-75290815108010296692012-04-08T22:00:10.968+02:002012-04-08T22:00:10.968+02:00These data were collected through a questionnaire ...These data were collected through a questionnaire distributed in the EU Council Law enforcement Working Group (see <a href="http://register.consilium.europa.eu/pdf/en/11/st08/st08457.en11.pdf" rel="nofollow">here</a>). How the subsequent collection process went in each member states, I don't know. I have checked the French data with the data published by the OCBC and it matches.<br /><br />I believe that these data are not necessarily also available through Interpol. For example, the Works of Art database in 2010 'only' recorded 1605 new objects stolen and the EU data show in the same year 6323 offences (thus at least the same number of object and most likely more). The threshold to get an object in the Works of Art database is higher than to report it stolen.<br /><br />The official document in which the EU data are collated has (still) not been released. Am working on that but when I laid my hands on a presentation based on that official document, I thought it would be good to already publish some of it. There is more data to follow.....Ludohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17120130133042403515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3425507272157287074.post-52464000005690926282012-04-08T11:07:02.370+02:002012-04-08T11:07:02.370+02:00Any information how these data were collected? Dir...Any information how these data were collected? Directly from police forces? If so: would the same data be available through Interpol? Is there any interpretation of these data available? If these are the number of offences, is there also information about the number of objects stolen?Museum Security Networkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10093106082873954736noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3425507272157287074.post-65862497118331453322012-04-08T10:59:55.880+02:002012-04-08T10:59:55.880+02:00oops! This is VERY painful: no data available from...oops! This is VERY painful: no data available from my country, The Netherlands. For almost ten years we did not have a specialized police force (we still don't). There is a one-man office now. Not an operational force, but just there to register art crime. Preparation of this one-man bureau took some five years; a slooooooow process. Too bad, especially since we have the world's most important arts and antiquities annual fair, TEFAF, within our borders. Interesting information for those of you who are not aware of this: there is a statute of limitations on theft, including art theft, of twenty years in The Netherlands. So, a very active operational police force really would not be luxury.Museum Security Networkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10093106082873954736noreply@blogger.com